Meeting called to order 8:30 January 12, 2004


Attendance:

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aaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaa*aa Steven Sharp
aaaapaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-a*aa Karen Pieper
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a------a--aaaaaaaaaaaa*aa Dennis Marsa
-aaaaaaa-aaaaa-aaa-aaa$aa James Markevitch
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-----aaa--aaa-aa-aaaaa$aa Anders Nordstrom
------------------aaa-$a- Ted Elkind
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-a*a- Brad Pierce
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aaaa--aa-aaaaaaaaaa---*aa Stu Sutherland
aaaaa--a--------------*a- Tom Fitzpatrick
----------------------*aa Elliot Mednick
a--a-a-------aa---------- Don Mills
----aaaa-----a----------- Jay Lawrence
-a-aa-------a------------ Mehdi Mohtashemi
--a--aaaa--aa------------ Kurt Baty
-------a----------------- David Smith
--aaaa-a----------------- Dennis Brophy
aaaaaaa------------------ Francoise Martinolle
-aaaa-------------------- Drew Lynch
---a--------------------- David Roberts
--a---------------------- Ennis Hawk
-a----------------------- Ronald Goodstein (First Shot Logic Simulaton, Inc.)
-a----------------------- Keith Gover
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The chair read the IEEE patent policy description, also
directed everone's attention to
http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a link to the IEEE
policy is prominent.


Review of the minutes of the last ETF meeting.
Cliff attended, so his attendence needs to be noted.
Shalom mentioned that the open action items are very out of date.
Tom moves that we approve the minutes with the above modifications.
Stu seconds.  No opposed.  No abstain.  Passes.

Open Action Items:

(7/14/03) 16: Shalom

(11/18/02) generate proposal for 17, 113, 255.

        We now have a proposal in an advanced stage.

(12/1/03) 22:  There is no concensus to a fix, so we will leave
this issue alone until there is one.

(12/1/03) 33:  Mike MacNamera to make a proposal.

(11/18/02) Steven and committee to return with an @* proposal for
        issues 22, 82, 84
        Group has agreement on some of the more contentious
        issues.

(11/18/02) Evaluating TBD Errata.  The tasks are:

    Shalom
         170 formatting of bnf non-terminals

(11/4/02) Steven will proposing a wording to fix 172.  It will
        be a significant rewrite.
        Partially rewritten through the generate proposal.  More
	work will remain after the generate proposal is ready.

(11/18/02) Evaluating TBD Errata.  The tasks are:

    Charles
        197 sscanf/"string" incompatibility

                Should add nulls in the white space description
		in 17.2.4.3a

(11/18/02) 198, 254, 58, 318: Shalom

(7/14/03) 204: James volunteered to drive

        He needs input on what the simulators do.  There are some
        complex issues here dealing with port collapsing and
        inout.
        That is covered by issue 54.

        As to the exact issue in 204, how about adding examples
        indicating that examples 2, 3, 4 are illegal?  James will

        do that.

        He has not written this up yet.  Shalom suggested that
        this and 7 other errata be evalutated together.  All of
        the issues are Brad's (filed by him?)  He does not want
        to
        drive.  James will develop a proposal for all of them
        including 204.  204, 227, 233, 234, 292, 332, 345, 452,
        486(?).

(7/14/03) 204, 227, 233, 234: James

(2/10/03)  Issue 237:   SV-BC19-41, SV-BC19-42
        Dave Roberts and Shalom to fix the proposal expanding the
        BNF and creating language to support it.

        Dave Roberts said he'd send something out later today.

(7/14/03) 245: Shalom
(7/14/03) 247: May be partially covered by generate proposal

(10/06/03) 428: Brad and Shalom

(11/3/03)  Shalom has the action to add an issue for the
situation where you need a hierarchical reference that
allows an array of scopes.  This is a follow on from issue
209.
Done.  This is issue 500

(11/3/03)  Shalom will open an issue on parameters and signing
reflecting issues raised in 441.
Done.  This is issue 499

The group then considered the ETF proposals:

We discussed the number of issues that have partial fixes, and
recommend that proposal be made for the partial fixes and new
issues be opened for remaining more difficult parts.

Generate Proposal:

We started the review of the proposal, and will rework the
proposal based upon the feedback we generated.  We will continue
discussion, and possibly vote, in the next meeting.

Cliff moves to adjourn the meeting.

Meeting adjourned at 10:30.