Meeting called to order 8:30 February 23rd, 2004 Administrivia: >>> Next meeting is March 22nd, at 8:30 Pacific Time, same number. <<< Meetings occur every fouth monday thereafter. Web site is http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html Attendance: Today DASC member (D yes, - no) | | v v Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D Michael McNamaraAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Steven Sharp Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Karen Pieper Aaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaa- D Shalom Bresticker Aaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaa-a- D Charles Dawson Aaaaaaaaa D Francoise Martinolle Aaaaaa-a---aaaaa-aa- D Stuart Sutherland Aaaaa--aa-a-aaaaaaa- D Stefen Boyd Aaaa-aaa-aaaa------- D Kurt Baty Aa-aaaa D Ennis Hawk Aa-aa-aaa D Dennis Brophy Aa-a-aa D Keith Gover Aa--aaaa------a--aa- D Tom Fitzpatrick A-aaaaaaaaaaaa----aa D Brad Pierce A-aa----a D Steven Dovich A-a D Ronald Goodstein A--aaaaa D Alec Stanclulesco A------------------ - Yogesh Goel -aaaaa-aa-aaaaaaaaaa D James A. Markevitch -aaaaa-aa----------- D Drew Lynch -aaaa D Richard Ho (rep Curt Widdoes) -a---a--a D Karen Bartleson --aaaa-----a------- D Mehdi Mohtashemi --aaa-----aa-a---aaa - Clifford E. Cummings --a---a--a--------- - Krishna Garlapati ----a--aa-aaaaaaaaaa D Anders Nordstrom ----a D Atsushi -----aa D Don Mills ------aaa D Jay Lawrence ------a-aaaaaaaaa-aa D Gordon Vreugdenhil ------a D David Smith ------a D Dave Rich ------a D Chong Guan Tan ----------aaaaaaaaaa - Dennis Marsa ------------------aa - Erich Marchner -------------------a D Peter Flake 1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation,and refers all to http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a link to the IEEE policy is prominent. 2) Charles moved, and Stefen seconded approval of the minutes of the last meeting. None opposed, None abstaion. Minutes approved. 3) Working Group Editor: No significant changes to report. Latest draft is on web site. 4) e mail archive of Kurt Baty is requested. 5) Report of ETF task force. Stefen reported on the activities. While much progress was made on major issues, there are no motions to bring before the VSG. 6) Report of the BTF: Kurt moves that the VSG accept the extentions guidelines as passed by the BTF. Stefen Boyd seconds the motion. The guidelines are available on the IEEE Verilog web site on the BTF web page. Abstain: Karen, Ronald, Brad, Dennis, Keith, Stu, Tom Fitzpatrick Approve: Ennis, Alec, Francoise, Kurt, Shalom, Charles, Mac Against: none. Alec reports that the Prioritation Group is also considering requesting that their mandate be extended to cover enhancements that are proposed without an associated donation. Kurt reports that the BTF's Data sub commiteee has met twice. Next meeting is a week from this Thursday. (4-Mar-2004) 7) Report from PLI task force: making good progress, with newly passed proposals: Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted. Issue : 284 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu. Amended by Shalom: also delete the word "new" in the sentence. Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 365 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu. Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 366 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu. Amended by Shalom: Delete the words: "least rapidly varying dimension and ending with most rapidly varying dimension. In the source declaration of the array, this would begin with the" from the first five new notes. Issue is withdrawn by the task force for further consideration. Issue : 341 Made by Charles, Seconded by Stu. Issue is withdrawn by the task force for further consideration. 8) New business. Discussion of how, or if we can talk about behavior of existing implementations of the standard in committee meetings. Steve Dovich states that it is his belief that each member of the WG is free to make proposals to the committee, which can be based on their experience and understanding and information. They need to be enabled to share such information based on their relationship with the source of the information. The WG chair (Mac) will contact IEEE counsel to learn how to proceed. 9) New business. Reconstitution a la DASC rules: Mac reported that he is awaiting the minutes of the DASC meeting in order to understand how to proceed. Mac believes he has taken the required first steps, and once more is known, will share this with the committee. Karen moves adjourn. 10:15 meeting adjourned.