Meeting called to order 8:30 December 15, 2003 Administrivia: >>> Next meeting is January 26th, at 8:30 Pacific Time, same number. <<< NOTICE THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT DAY THAT PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED Meetings occur every fouth monday thereafter. Web site is http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html Attendance: Today DASC member (D yes, - no) | | v v Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D Michael McNamaraAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Steven Sharp Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Karen Pieper Aaaaaaaaaaaa----aa D Brad Pierce Aaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaa- D Shalom Bresticker Aaaaaaa-aaaaaaa-a- D Charles Dawson Aaaaaaa D Francoise Martinolle Aaaa-aa-aaaaaaaaaa D James A. Markevitch Aaaa-aa----------- D Drew Lynch Aaaa-a---aaaaa-aa- D Stuart Sutherland Aaa--aa-a-aaaaaaa- D Stefen Boyd Aaa-----aa-a---aaa - Clifford E. Cummings Aaa D Richard Ho (rep Curt Widdoes) Aa-aaa-aaaa------- D Kurt Baty Aa----a D Steven Dovich A D Ronald Goodstein aa-aaa D Dennis Brophy a-aa D Keith Gover aaaaa D Alec Stanclulesco aaaa D Ennis Hawk a---a--a--------- - Krishna Garlapati aaaa-----a------- D Mehdi Mohtashemi -aaaa------a--aa- D Tom Fitzpatrick -a D Atsushi -a--aa-aaaaaaaaaa D Anders Nordstrom --aa - Don Mills --a--a D Karen Bartleson ---aaa D Jay Lawrence ---a-aaaaaaaaa-aa D Gordon Vreugdenhil ---a D David Smith ---a D Dave Rich ---a D Chong Guan Tan -------aaaaaaaaaa - Dennis Marsa ---------------aa - Erich Marchner ----------------a D Peter Flake 1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation,and refers all to http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a link to the IEEE policy is prominent. 2) Kurt moves and James seconds approving minutes. None oppose, none abstain; minutes approved. 3) Report of the 2001c Project: Circulated final version of 2001c. Brad moves that we accept and approve for publication the IEEE 1364-2001 Version C document, Shalom seconds; none opposed, Charles Dawson, and Francoise abstain as they had not the time to read the document. Motion passes. 4) Report on User survey 5) Status of 2005 Draft 3: Shalom has implemented VSG passed changes. Need some clarification on certain issues (78, 158). Karen moves to have VSG meeting every fourth Monday, starting Januray 26th. ETF will meet every fourth Monday, starting January 12th. Shalom seconds. None opposed, None abstain Motion passes unanimously. 6) Report of BTF committee: Extensions Guide line Group. BTF will review the report of the group later today. 7) Report from PLI task force will meet at 4:00 pm today, no report today. 8) Report from ETF: did pass a number of items, for considerations. 8) Then the group took up the next item on the agenda, which was to review and consider for approval the activities of the Errata and PLI Task Forces. Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to the VSG by one of the chairs of the task force; discussion ensues; and only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted. Issue : 306 Made by Stu, Seconded by Charles Opposed: none Abstain: Shalom Motion passes Issue : 165 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 217 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 211 Made by Karen, Seconded by James Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Proposal on the web page was Modified by the ETF as follows: the sentences added to 12.2.3 are now: However, overriding a parameter, whether by a defparam statement or in a module instantiation statement, effectively replaces the parameter definition with the new expression. Issue : 325 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 380 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 484 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom ETF modified this (but it is not yet on the web page) as follows: Proposal was ammended by ETF committee to instead delete the sentence: "A function definition shall include an assignment of the function result value to the internal variable that has the same name as the function name.", and remove the word 'six' from the previous paragraph. Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 504 Made by Karen, Seconded by James ETF modified this (but it is not yet on the web page) as follows: Simplification to BNF describing real and variable declarations. James proposes friendly amendment make replacement text read as follows: real_type ::= real_identifier { dimension } | real_identifier = constant_expression variable_type ::= variable_identifier { dimension } variable_identifier = constant_expression Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 505 Made by Karen, Seconded by Brad Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 511 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Brad Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 515 Made by Karen, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Karen moves adjourn. 9:35 meeting adjourned.