Meeting called to order 8:36 November 17, 2003 Administrivia: Next meeting is December 15th, at 8:30 Pacific Time, same number. Meetings occur every fouth monday. Web site is http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html Attendance: Today DASC member (D yes, - no) | | v v A aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D Michael McNamaraA aaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Steven Sharp A aaaaaaaaaaaaa-aa D Karen Pieper A aaaaaaaaaa----aa D Brad Pierce A aaaaa-aaaaaaaaa- D Shalom Bresticker A aaaaa-aaaaaaa-a- D Charles Dawson A aa-aa-aaaaaaaaaa D James A. Markevitch A aa-aa----------- D Drew Lynch A aa-a---aaaaa-aa- D Stuart Sutherland A a-aaa D Dennis Brophy A a--aa-a-aaaaaaa- D Stefen Boyd A a-----aa-a---aaa - Clifford E. Cummings A a D Richard Ho (rep Curt Widdoes) A -aa D Keith Gover A aaaa D Alec Stanclulesco A aaa D Ennis Hawk A ---a--a--------- - Krishna Garlapati A aaaaa D Francoise Martinolle A ----a D Steven Dovich A -aaa-aaaa------- D Kurt Baty A aaa-----a------- D Mehdi Mohtashemi aaaa------a--aa- D Tom Fitzpatrick a D Atsushi a--aa-aaaaaaaaaa D Anders Nordstrom -aa - Don Mills -a--a D Karen Bartleson --aaa D Jay Lawrence --a-aaaaaaaaa-aa D Gordon Vreugdenhil --a D David Smith --a D Dave Rich --a D Chong Guan Tan ------aaaaaaaaaa - Dennis Marsa --------------aa - Erich Marchner ---------------a D Peter Flake 1) The Chair read the IEEE patent policy presentation,and refers all to http://www.verilog.com/IEEEVerilog.html where a link to the IEEE policy is prominent. 2) Shalom moves Drew seconds approving minutes. None oppose, minutes approved unanimously. 3) Report of the 2001c Project: Editing is finished, Errata has been sent for approval. IEEE 2001 C will appear on every page. The participant list will go into the 1364-2001 C Errata, and also into the reprint. Cliff moves, Stu Seconds to accept name list for inclusion as front matter in the Errata, and Reprint, name list as ammended, ammendment being to include Stuart Sutherland as Co Chair for the PLI task force. Draft 3, end of year, has all 2001-C (minus items superceeds), Errata, plus additional changes. Cliff moves to accept Errata document, Stu seconds. none opposed, none abstain, errata document 4) Report on User survey. Birds of a Feather suggested, for Tuesday evening, at 7-8:30pm. 5) Report of BTF Task Force. First the Coordination committee. Alec reports looked at the donations, prioritized, and analyized dependences; identified tasks forces to work on these donations, and identified TFs that could start right away, as they do not overlap Accellera work; others are complemantary to Accellera work, and could proceed if there is good working relationship; and other that distinctly overlap. Encryption Task Force: chair is Steve Dovich. Members recruited form the task force are Richard Ho, Alec Stanculescu and Bernie Delay. The group would like an ARM member, and someone from Xilinx and/or Altera, perhaps Dennis Marshna. Goal of Encryption Task Force is to finish up the integration of this proposal into the LRM. Purpose of the donation is to come up with syntax for organizing the HDL text in a way it can be encrypted. Discussion started on the System Task Based Randomization Library Task Force, but the group decided this still needs collaboration. Discussion started on the Separate Compilation Task Force: Somewhat overlapping, somewhat orthagonal efforts underway at Accellera. No conflicts within IEEE 1364. Will also apply to IEEE 1364-2001. Forming of a task force was referred to BTF. Second the BTF chair, Steven Sharp reported on the activities of the BTF, and Extensions Guidelines Group. Katheryn McKinley is the new chair of the EGG. The EGG meets the off mondays from the VSG. A meeting held October 10th at 4:00 pm eastern time. Next meeting 8:30 am pacific time, Monday November 24th, 2003. Interested parties should send email to Kathy at her last name at cadence dot com. 6) Stuart Sutherland reported that the PLI Task force last meeting was two weeks ago, closed on a number of items, which are not yet in database. 7) No progress has happened in Mac meeting with Dennis to define ways Accellera and 1364 can work together. 8) The chair then reminded everyone to send in IEEE roster data at http://www.verilog.com/IEEEverilog.html, and to verify and renew their DASC membership, at http://www.dasc.org 8) The chair then reminded everyone to send in IEEE roster data at http://www.verilog.com/IEEEverilog.html, and to verify and renew their DASC membership, at http://www.dasc.org 9) Then the group took up the next item on the agenda, which was to review and consider for approval the activities of the Errata and PLI Task Forces. Those seeking more information on these issues are directed to http://www.boyd.com/1364_btf, where one can access these items by issue number. As is usual practice, these matters are presented to the VSG by a member of the task force; discussion ensues; and only votes of those opposed or abstain are noted. Issue : 9 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Steven Sharp Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 73 Made by Brad, Seconded by Steven Sharp Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 209 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Karen Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 257 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Steven Sharp Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 217 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Opposed: none Abstain: none After some discussion, and without a second, the motion was withdrawn for rewording. Issue : 225 Made by Brad, Seconded by Karen Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 258 Made by Brad, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 261 Made by Steven Sharp, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 283 Made by Brad, Seconded by Steven Sharp Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 352 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Karen Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 412 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Brad Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 439 Made by Shalom, Seconded by Brad Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 441 Made by Brad, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 470 Made by Brad, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Issue : 493 Made by Brad, Seconded by Shalom Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes This completes all current ETF passed issues. PLI task force: Issue : 184 Made by Stuart, Seconded by Shalom Friendly amendment replace the 'the an' with 'the specific' Opposed: none Abstain: none Motion passes Meeting Adjourned at 10:36. Reminder: PLI task force today at 4:00 pm, email for details. Reminder: BTF meeting in five minutes, same number.